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Draft—DEX-COOL 2007, Part 2:
Revising Continues, But What's 2-EHA?

by John R. Hess with additions from Mole Snoopster

To appear in July 2007 Cool Profit$ Magazine
© 2007 All Rights Reserved

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Review of GM Video
Immediately following my review of the MACS 2001 presentation, we included a specific review of GM’s DEX video by John Brunner. John started with the basics, that DEX was first installed in some 1995 vehicles, and in all 1996 models less the Saturn. For the first two years, DEX was to be changed at 100,000 miles or 5 years. Starting in with 1997 models, the mileage was upped to 150,000. We also learned that the video was built by data extracted from about two thousand 2, 3 and 4 year old returned GM lease vehicles.
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It was from those vehicles that GM determined that low coolant levels were beachheading the rust off the iron components, especially the heads as they are the hottest. They also found contaminated coolant, but only in a limited number of vehicles. The contaminants they did find were claimed to be composed of three components: rust, sealer pellets (which are no longer installed) and hose material. John then covered the list of affected vehicle types and explained the related problems and the Tech Service Bulletin procedures that were called out.

Sure looks like a lot of rust in that mud. Is it primarily from "beachheading" the iron block? I wonder what the makeup of the material actually is. If anyone KNOWS, please contact the author at 800-883-8929, or Click to email imcool.com.

John’s closing sentence was good advice for all vehicle owners: “Keep the system cleaned and pressurized and any vehicle can achieve that level of performance.” Looking back, however, do we, or can we, really expect the original owners of these brand new vehicles to start servicing their cooling systems within the first 20,000 miles? How were they to know that they had to take the cap off the radiator to determine the true coolant level in the system? Why would they expect to have to change the pressure cap? (Well, it actually wasn’t the wrong cap…if the coolant hadn’t become so severely contaminated.) I realize that overheating the engine and coolant can cause degradation of just about all the connected parts, but what’s with the gelled up hose material?

Not an accurate picture
As returned lease vehicles, GM’s test fleet was not an accurate representation of the average user’s DEX-COOL related problems. Fleet owners are more likely to use a service professional to perform preventative maintenance. A pro-tech will be more apt to check beneath the radiator cap than will an individual owner. In any case, the most important component overlooked by the video was probably the intake manifold gasket (on purpose for sure).

It Gets Worse
In Cool Profit$ Magazine #52, May/June 2003, I again ignored some obvious signs of trouble with DEX-charged systems. In the article, “GM Under Legal Fire For DEX-COOL Related Problems,” I included a few statements that I’d also like to retract. What changed my mind is the data that has been drawn out by the lawsuits. I tend to believe the results of the non-GM lab tests that have been run.

In Issue #52, I was also “caught” by two readers who weren’t hoodwinked by the smoke of my report. I’m reprinting their “Letters To The Editor” (Write Side Up) below. Besides adding content to this story, it's a credit to them and a painful reminder to me of what can happen when you do research with your eyes semi-shut.

Letter 1: "I.M. Cool, idiot or one of GM’s suckers?
To I.M. Cool, What did GM pay you to write that article? Everything you state in the article is directed to technicians after the dex-cool problem is found. Where is GM telling the consumer that he has to keep the dex-cool level in the reservoir above what it originally was suppose to be? There are no statements in the manuals that require such crap that they told you in that presentation. Suckers are born everyday and your (sic) one. Are you an idiot or what? My guess is that you don't have a vehicle like we do that has this problem or you wouldn't be talking like GM never created this problem." Name withheld.

CPM: Being paid for writing an article, ouch! The letter writer was referring to “MACS 2001: GM and Texaco ‘Bare All’ about DEX-COOL®” which appeared in the Jan/Feb 2001 edition of Cool profit$ (and which we referred to in Part 1). It’s available on the imcool.com website, or click here.

I replied, telling him: "First, Cool Profit$ IS directed toward technicians; they (you) are our focus.” Then I asked: “If DEX-COOL is that bad, why are millions of engine cooling systems on the road today using it with no problems at all?” I've asked it several times; I've yet to receive an answer.

Letter 2: "Service shops and Cool Profit$ can now retire 
First of all, this problem with dex-cool doesn't happen overnight. It takes sometimes years for it to be noticed and by then it 's to late. The benefits of dex-cool do not outweigh the problems it creates. It may be a gold mine for service shops because it means more money for them and in reality they are not to blame. GM is. But why should the shop care it's only the consumers who lose? Let's not tell anyone about this until we make enough money off this. Remember we all can make enough to retire on this one. Happy retirement John! May your car never have this problem." Name also withheld.

CPM: So there you have it; I’ve now retired thanks to the GM payola for writing a favorable review of a 2001 MACS presentation. What a country! But if that’s true, why are Ellen and I still working?

My somewhat curt answers above are not meant to make light of the suffering felt by consumers affected by this cooling system corrosion, contamination problem; we take it very seriously. Readers should check out “GM Under Legal Fire For DEX-COOL Related Problems” mentioned above. We’ve attempted to present as much of a balanced article as possible. But of course, reader opinions and are always welcome.

Paul Weissler Clears Up Many DEX Issues
In his August 2004 Motor magazine article, my friend and venerable automotive tech writer, Paul Weissler, brought us all up-to-date on many of the DEX issues. With the title, "Coolant Confusion: It's Not Easy Being Green…or Yellow or Orange or…,” Paul's focus was less on the negative sides of DEX-COOL and more toward helping his readers make the right choice when servicing cooling systems and replacing OEM coolant (given the multitude of coolant colors today). He was careful, however, to advise that GM is the only manufacturer to currently specify DEX as a factory fill, and that Honda and Toyota, proponents of OAT longlife coolant themselves, were adamant against the DEX product. The difference, Paul says, is that DEX uses 2-EHA (2-ethylhexanoic acid) as one of its corrosion-inhibiting organic acids, which turns out to be a known "plasticizer" (softens plastic). Honda and Toyota do not. (Bonus info: Japanese manufacturers also require phosphate in their inhibitor chemistry, which neither DEX-COOL nor Zerex G-05 use.)

Ford had problems with DEX's 2-EHA
Questioning linkage to the cause of GM's V6 intake manifold gasket problems, Paul went on to document that Ford had used a formula similar to DEX in the '99 Cougar Duratec V6 (DEX is still the coolant of record). However, after noticing gasket distortion and leakage problems in tests for their V8 engines, they dropped DEX-COOL from consideration for additional applications. Supposedly, DaimlerChrysler questioned the viability of DEX as well. We'll have more on gasket problems later.

Inside of deteriorating hose from a '96 Chevrolet Blazer S-10 with a 4.3 V6 engine. Customer requested the coolant be changed over to "green" after the repairs and cleanup were done.

Bob Freudenberger adds more details
More recently, seasoned automotive author and editor, Bob Freudenberger, carried the 2-EHA-chemistry lesson a little further (and was a little more critical of GM’s usage of it in the process). Writing in “Daily Decisions: Choosing the Right Antifreeze” for Master Technician, Bob adds this thought-provoking comment: “With all due respect to GM and Texaco, sometimes companies get so entrenched in a policy that it's just about impossible for them to back down, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.” With the DEX lawsuits lined up against GM, this sure seems to be right on. Bob also advises that late model VWs and Audis use DEX, too, so be careful when servicing those that are still in warranty.

Close-up of hose above.

Note that like Paul’s, Bob’s article is also more into defining which manufacturer has chosen what color dye to add to their coolant, and why. I recommend that cooling system specialists and coolant-enthusiast readers grab a copy of these articles.

By the way, click below to see Paul and Bob "working" at SEMA 2006 in Las Vegas. (We can't do "this" in a print magazine.)


Now we’re ready to delve more deeply into the specific problems General Motors is facing, as called out by the Class Action lawyers. Don't miss Part 3: Class Action Lawsuits. $$$

End of Part 2.
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There are 8 comments
Maryann – San Jose, CA
April 01, 2008 - 22:36
Subject: water sloughing sound

Around the dash it sounded like water sloughing so I took it to the dealer.

Word from the dealer is no leak found so it might have been an
air bubble? Seems strange that the reserve tank would be empty if it had an air bubble. There were no water leaks anywhere. They flushed the system and said to drive it for about 100 miles and see what happens.
The water pump had to be replaced in October 2007 because the car all of a sudden ran hot one day (no water leaks).

Reply to Maryann
CPMJohn – Petaluma, CA
April 02, 2008 - 06:23
Subject: What year and model vehicle?

Hi Maryann,
To be a classic DEX problem, you would see the coolant's color change from rust and other contaminants.
Is the overflow bottle staying to the proper level and the radiator full?

Hillary
March 26, 2008 - 11:02
Subject: VW and Dexcool

Any word about VW's and Dexcool? I had to replace my engine and have the same issues that the GM vehicles have. How can I get included in the GM Class Action Lawsuit or do I start my own?

Reply to Hillary
CPMJohn – Petaluma, CA
March 26, 2008 - 11:43
Subject: Not familiar with VW's DEX problem.

Hi Hiillary,
I'm not aware of specific VW DEX problems. But to get a Class Action through the courts is a significant undertaking; you'd need a lot of folks in the "Class."
Are the intake manifold gaskes failing or is there another problem with the cooling systems?
Year and models affected?

Kathy
February 19, 2008 - 21:05
Subject: GM / dex cool victim

I found your information very helpful today. I took my 97 Grand Am in for service for the 4th time with coolant issues. Last month they replaced the heater core, today they advise intake manifold, radiator and head gasket... to the tune of $3000 and being w/o my car for 2-3 weeks. I am hopeful that a settlement with GM will assist in repair cost... any time line expected? Will we hear directly from GM in the form of a recall? If they don't make this right it will be my 2nd, and FINAL, GM purchase. I'm done.

Reply to Kathy
CPMJohn – Petaluma, CA
February 20, 2008 - 12:10
Subject: 2-3 weeks down time?

Hi Kathy,
First, I find it hard to accept a 2-3 week down time to change those components. I'm not aware of any such shortages. could the shop be that busy?
Still no word on final outcome of tentative settlement.
I don't believe that GM will contact you directly. However, if you're the original owner and have been working with the dealer for all these years, that is a possibility.
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Robert Williams – MA
November 26, 2007 - 07:46
Subject: DexCool

I purchased a 2001 Pontiac Grand AM 3.4V-6 new @ at 29,000 mt mechanic told me I had a leak at the intake manifold gasket & to bring it back to Dealer for repair while under warranty which was done,(I think). At 42,000 I was losing antifreeze & Brought it back to the GM Dealership & after taking it in they advised me, "No Leaks, Holding pressure".I was at a loss as to what to do so I just added anti freeze as needed,I also noticed a brown sludge in reservoir rank and cap was very hard to open, once I had to use a pair of water pump pliers to open it. At 44.000 I experienced a massive anti freeze leak, I had it towed to a GM dealer & they advised me I had a blown head gasket, at this time I was advised about all the problems with DexCool and I called GM and they would offer me no assistance. It cost me $1800.00 for repairs,Heads were damaged also.Car was still running hot after a few months so I decided to trade it in. Now have a Camry Solara.I will never buy GM again.

Reply to Robert Williams
John Hess – Petaluma, CA
November 26, 2007 - 18:07
Subject: Robert Williams post

Your problem with the 3.4L engine/cooling system sounds classic. You have to question if the IMGs were changed, and done properly, at 29K miles.
It also seems that to properly check for this type of coolant leak, the technician, or you, must drive the vehicle at a normal operating temperature to log 100 miles or so. Then they must carefully recheck the coolant level in both the bottle and radiator.
I can understand your dissatisfaction with GM.

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