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MACS 2001: GM and Texaco “Bare All” about
DEX-COOL®
Marketing departments of major consumer goods manufacturers are known for their attempt to conceal even a shred of negative publicity about their products. You can’t blame them; you do the same in
your business. That’s why it was refreshing to witness a candid GM/Texaco presentation about DEX-COOL coolant and its related field service problems. I give the big guys credit for even bringing up the subject because, well, let’s face it, there are not a lot of kind words being spoken about this coolant at automotive service shops today. (Especially at radiator shops.)
GM’s Jay Dankovich and Equilon Enterprises’ (Texaco) Stede Granger directed a 2-year study of thousands of DEX-COOL cooled vehicles. Armed with the results, they really didn’t have anything bad to say about the coolant. In fact, they strongly defended the product’s reputation. What they revealed to the audience is that specific models of GM vehicles have specific cooling system contamination problems. And essentially, that DEX-COOL is not the culprit! 9. While there have been intake gasket failures on CK Series, V8 powered vehicles for various reasons, DEX-COOL has never been found as a cause. Below are findings from
local Northern California cooling system service shops that supplement the
article above. Here's
links to the follow-up DEX-COOL articles:
Showing 1-15 of 21 Comments
October 12, 2009 - 16:33
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I have a 2004 Monte Carlo. I had a intake manifold gasket replaced one year after I had bought my car. 6 mo later I had the thermostat replaced, and still had an overheating problem. I took my car to my mechanic today, and was told DEXCOOL is the cause of my problems. I saw the jelled coolant on the radiator cap. I was told I will continue to have engine problems because of DEXCOOL. It is too late to file a class action lawsuit because of GM bankruptsy. What can be done about getting repairs repaid because of DEXCOOL damages? August 06, 2008 - 06:37
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My '96 Camaro Z28 SS has blown four head gaskets in twelve years always at the last bolt close to the driver. They cracked my block pulling the head and I had to replaced the engine $11000). And now the new engine just blew the head casket at the same spot. The shop boss thought the engine wasn't getting enough air circulation in that corner. Could this be a Dex-cool problem? Have others seen similar issues? July 11, 2008 - 13:57
Subject: Intake manifold gasket failure on Buick 3.8 liter engines
I recently had the intake maniforld on my 1999 Buick LeSabre Custom replaced due to a coolant leak. The cooland was GM DexCool. Is this a common failure on these engines or was this a singular case of a poor gasket? The proper mixture of DexCool and water was installed when the coolant was changed at the prescribed service interval. August 18, 2008 - 23:56
Subject: 3.8 Intake Problem
Unfotunately this is a problem with almost all 3800 series 2 engines. I have done 4 on my friends cars as well as at the dealership where I work. It is a gasket problem and if the coolant system is not properly taken care of it speeds up the process. As you said you had changed it at the recomended time so you actually slowed the process down. You should not have this problem again. Good luck July 07, 2008 - 11:23
Subject: GM's Worst move
I HAD a 2000 Alero that had dexcool in the system being the do it your selfer that i am i went a head and changed anything that arose as a problem with this car first it started with a Tstat, then the water pump, then the lower intake due to a crack, and the car STILL overheated everyday so i finally took the car in to the dealer where they called me within 2 mins of leaving saying myhead gaskets were blown after towing the car home and ripping the motor apart I found that lovely MUD crap inside my entire engine after some hunting and probing I found the head gasket and cracked due to that mud crap building up under it and forcing its way through. My motor was trashed since then instead of replacing the 2000.00 motor (cali emmisions) i just went out and bought a new truck THEN i learned about DEX COOL'S Problems needless to say Im in the process of talking to GM about either replacing my motor in the alero or paying for the truck i bought due to there lack of care about quality May 12, 2008 - 19:10
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1996 Cavalier Z24 how do i flush my rad i have serious iron oxide build up in my overflow reservoir OOOOPS i put bars leak in it and it has clogged my system how do i flush it out , please i need help !!!!!!! May 13, 2008 - 09:58
Subject: Use a professsional radiator/cooling system service shop
Your vehicle did not originally come with DEX-COOL. February 12, 2008 - 18:10
Subject: GM Coolant Story
Wow, this Dex-Cool problem is news to me. I have 1999 GMC 4.8L truck with 268,000 miles and have used the Dex-Cool product since new. I guess I'm super lucky, since I have not replaced anything other than brake pads and tires. Of course I have generally perform all maintenance at half the recommended interval. So for the cooling system, I have flushed and replaced the Dex Cool every 50K miles or 2.5 years. February 13, 2008 - 11:00
Subject: Different engine with better IMGs
Hi Terry, January 05, 2008 - 12:56
Subject: DEX-COOL FALL OUT
Late model G.M. vehicles with DexCool,achieve this long life characteristic by suspending the small particles of metal and contaminates in the fluid keeping them from sticking together and plugging the cooling system.At a 50% mixture of water and coolant this system works quite well.However if the concentration of coolant is reduced (by loss and topping off with water) the metal particles rust at a very high rate.This causes the fluid to become filled with rust.Keeping the mixture at the proper 50% is critical in these systems.As a full service auto repair dealer,we have also seen many older G.M. models with paper intake gaskets failing prematurely.We have not seen this in the later models with rubber gaskets.We don't have any evidence that conclusive indicates if this is from DexCool or the improper mixture or paper gasket material.So I guess you have to draw your own conclusions.But any studies,videos or reports prepared by the manufacturers may be slanted. December 31, 2007 - 17:38
Subject: about dexcool
My husband and I just purchased a 97 yukon, he asked me to do a search on dexcool, it is apparent that this coolant was used in this truck. the truck only has a 114k miles on it. should we be looking to use a different type of coolant for our vehicle January 01, 2008 - 11:58
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Kimberly, December 25, 2007 - 21:36
Subject: I had problems, but decided that to stay with DexCool.
I have a 1999 Chevy Tahoe 5.7 V8 4x4. It is absolutely stock. I Bought it in 2000 from the original owner with 28'K miles. Since then I gave it the best care and maintenance anyone can imagine. Consequently I have also always checked my coolant level and maintained my cooling system properly. I have always used DexCool. I developed an intake manifold gasket leak when the truck/coolant was 5 years old and had 63'K Miles. The leak was still extremely small and almost not noticeable. Indeed I have probably only noticed it because of my own overly stringent and frequent maintenance inspections. I installed the newer revised GM Gasket (Part#89017465) and then completely flushed and changed the coolant. That was about two years ago and now I just recently changed the coolant again. It is once again DexCool made by Prestone (Type 5/150). I hear lots of things good/bad about DexCool but decided that I stay with DexCool and will change it every two years from now on. October 26, 2007 - 13:42
Subject: Overheating in a 2004 impala///uses dex cool
I Recently had to replace water pump and thermastst after 39365 miles. Dex Cool or GM? October 26, 2007 - 14:03
Subject: 2004 Impala
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